Swift Speed Secrets
FASTER, FASTER, FASTER!!! (010200)
From: Steve Wetherbee <wasinc@northpro.net>
Monty, Some more Swift questions: Do you or someone in the organization have
any lists of other speed mods both approved and unapproved and as to how
much speed is gained for each mod? We are thinking about the flap gap seals,
are they worth the no paperwork risk? How about a retractable tailwheel?
I have closed up the tailwheel opening but haven't flown it since. This one
also has stock wingtips, I like the looks of them but wondering about why
people take them off? I also was going to go to the sliding canopy but sounds
like no one knows what happened to the guy that now has the STC. Do you know
anything about that. One more what can be done to move or go to a electric
trim? Steve
Steve:
I don't think gap seals do any good. A retractable t/w may help if you're
in the 180 mph range -- but below that I don't think you'd, notice any
difference. I don't know what's going on with the canopy STC -- electric
trim is included in the canopy STC. Read the links from the Swift Home Page.
The stock tips are the best, the Bonanza tips really cut down on the r/c
altho they may be a tad faster. Mostly the stock tips get removed because
of cosmetic reasons -- they get dented up. I have copies of one-time field
approvals for electric trim. Some of the biggest "speed secrets" are to tighten
up the wing bands (tape underneath) and put seals ahead of the elevators/rudder
and above the flaps/ailerons (like foam seals) to minimize air movement thru
these areas. After you get up to, say, 160K or 180 mph it gets harder and
harder to gain more. You can always try to reduce the empty weight. Read
the Home Page for STC's available. -- Jim
"STRIP SHOW"... (010300)
Subject: Re: Swift speed
From: wasinc@northpro.net
Monty,
Flew the swift late this afternoon both double occ. and solo but pretty full
of gas, the side to side yaw seems to be gone and airspeed shows 185 at 25/25
Gps showed about 178, did notice that the wing to center section straps were
flying" pretty good even though we just tightened them today. What is the
best way to hold them down flat. You also mentioned foam between ailerons/flaps
and tail surfaces, could you explain that in more detail like what kind of
foam. Is this air pressure in the wing making those strips fly up? and the
foam blocks some of that? Temp was about zero so speed could be from that
difference since last flight of 28 degrees. I just bought a digital camera
so when I figure it out I will send you a picture. Steve
Steve,
The gap strips "flying up" are one of the biggest potential drag producers
on the Swift. That area has a really low pressure, I've had them so tight
you could hardly pry them up, and the next flight they rode up considerably.
With them off, tape up the gap between the wing and center section, the reinstall
the gap strip. You can even make the upper surface of the gap strip
semi-permanent by application of some sealant, (over tape) they vary somewhat,
sometimes you just have to install some screws to hold them down. The foam
seals I mentioned can be made out of common hardware store foam that they
sell for insulating doors, windows etc. (3M or whatever) They sell it in
rolls, 3/8"x 1/2" or whatever fits between your wing upper trailing edge
and the aileron or flap. It is best installed with the surface off with contact
cement. -- JM
IT ALWAYS GETS INTERESTING WHENEVER MEN DISCUSS SHORT VS LONG... (010400)
From: "Dot & Bill Shepherd" <billdot10ss@prodigy.net>
Subject: more on wingtips
To add more fuel to the fire on Short vs. Stock wingtips, here is some results
on my Swift . These tests were done back when I had a 150 Lyc. When I first
put the short tips on I found climb rate was down considerably at 85 MPH.
So I switched back to the stock tips, then noticed that climb time to cruise
altitude was no better than with short tips! I switched back to the short
tips and did more thorough climb tests and found that at my normal climb
speed the rate of climb was the same. At about 100/105 and above I could
not measure any difference in climb rate using a stopwatch and altimeter.
Also even more interesting, was no difference in stall speed. Switching to
short tips you loose a fair amount of wing area, so what is going on! After
pondering this for a while I talked with a friend who was pretty deep into
aerodynamics and his explanation was that shorter aspect ratio wings with
the same airfoil stall at a higher angle of attack, thus producing more lift
per sq. ft. of wing area (and more drag) at that angle of attack. The absolute
ceiling will be reduced with the short tips-but only when the climb or cruise
airspeed (indicated) drops to 105MPH. Other benefits of short tips are faster
roll rate, takes up less hangar space, and one other neat surprise-shorter
landing rollout. How can that be! The lower aspect ratio wing hasless ground
cushion and the tires don't skip along as much after touchdown and allows
you to start braking sooner if needed. I noticed this when switching the
tips back and fourth during testing. One last comment, a good set of stock
tips is much prettier. -- Bill
(Editor's note: My lovely bride Erin has a nice set of short wingtips on her Swift that she would LOVE to trade straight across for a pair of stock tips. In fact, I've got an extra set of short tips in storage too! Any takers???)
KIND-OF A DRAG... (010500)
From: Bill Harris <Temcowilly@aol.com>
Subject: Re: January #4 GTS Internet Update
For your info - Kent Koester years ago went thru the Stanford research library
which had W W 2 's Moffett field wind tunnel data on drag on everything you
could think of. The venturi ( large ) at 120 mph took 6.5 hp to drag it thru
the air. Bill Harris
THE NEXT BIG THING: RETRACTABLE
PITOT TUBES??? (080300)
Subj: Fwd: Speed
From: Jerry Swartz <JSw7211963@aol.com>
<< Here's something to think about. Some fellows found that removing
the pitot tube from an RV increased the speed by 4 mph, so they are making
it retractable!!! >> Now here is something you could market,
Jim. Use the GPS for cruise altitude and the pitot for pattern altitude.
Jerry
Jerry,
We-e-ll, many Swifts have been modified with a pitot directly out of the
leading edge of the wing. (no drag) All that was different was the airspeed
indication was not very accurate! -- Jim
CHANGING THE PITOT TUBE IS
NOT THE ANSWER... (080300)
Subj: Re: Speed
From: Jerry Swartz <JSw7211963@aol.com>
Jim
Have patience!!! Someday I may catch up, but don't plan on it. Wouldn't give
up my original pitot for ten mph more speed. Not that many of them left around.
Jerry.
Jerry,
Changing the pitot tube is NOT the answer! A bogus pitot tube may well give
an indication of 150 mph cruise, but the airplane is not going any faster!
The easiest and most legal way to increase speed is to run the CG at the
aft limit and get a Sensenich Prop. -- Jim