Posted by zella on February 26, 1999 at 17:18:24:
Ft Worth Masada? {more on cps induced
family suicide}
Posted by slingblade on February 08, 1999 at 09:15:20:
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slingblade, the oddest thing happened today. i copied the last posts on the cps=suicide (paraphrasing). then as i was looking for another post, i find the one on SE.
Re: what does one do when faced with a government which wants to destroy
his family?
Wednesday, 17-Feb-99 15:09:57
207.64.66.30 writes:
Zella, I am sorry about the loss of your child.
Losing a child is a horrible thing. I don't advocate people
killing their children because they
face the prospect of losing them, even losing them to those who
are hell-bent for
brainwashing them into accusing their father of the most vile
acts.
However, I don't think you or I can condemn the father and mother
who took the lives of
themselves and their two young boys. WE simply were not faced with
their dilemna.
I am sure you have seen the movie Masada. In it, the Jews when
faced with certain defeat
and slavery at the hands of the Roman legions decided to engage in
a mass suicide. I always
thought those who wanted to die should have done so and just
allowed their children to live,
even if under slavery. Others may think differently.
Would you allow your child to live if you were dying if you knew
he would be tortured, sold
into
slavery, told about sexual things before he is old enough to
understand, moved from home to
home, etc. Should this father if he was innocent, just have killed
himself and allowed his wife
and the two boys to go on without him, caught up in the
brainwashing mess which defines
one's identity before God as an abuse victim?
I can't make that decision for others. I chose to leave my family,
the family I love, the family
God told me to protect, in the clutches of the system which has
brainwashed them, which has
made them into monters who dishonor their own father.
Did I do the right thing? There was nothing I could do other than
hurt them. When children
are brainwashed to believe the worst about you, even when the
things they believe are not
true, you can't change their minds. At least not without divine
intervention. God has chosen
not to intervene. So it is his call.
I agree with you that one of God's laws, in fact his command, is
"thall shall not kill."
slingblade
Message thread:
Re: look on cps spokeswoman's face
Wednesday, 17-Feb-99 15:17:38
207.64.66.30 writes:
Zella, this spokewoman is well experienced with being on tv
camera, having done the duty
for some time now and also being a supervisor of cps. She didn't
look so poised this time,
she looked to me like the cat who ate the canary, with feathers
still on her mouth.
No way to really know who is guilty and who is innocent? You are
right. Then don't you
think all involved should proceed a bit more cautiously since
human lives are at stake. Since
God made the family and considers it sacred, shouldn't more
attention be paid to keeping it
intact, even when there are problems within that family?
slingblade
Message thread:
slingblade: another cps nightmare? (27-Jan-99 14:18:09)
Re: Re: what does one do when faced with a government which wants to
destroy his
family?
Thursday, 18-Feb-99 19:37:15
206.66.108.223 writes:
slingblade,
you can justify the parents actions all you want by blaming CPS
until the walls come fallin
down. we justify when there is no REASON for one's actions. they
had an excuse to murder
their sons, not a reason.
suicide is a selfish act. murder is a crime and a sin. there were
other family members, i know
you don't trust the sister-in-law. what about mom who said her son
loved those boys. i am
sure there were other members who would have raised them.
your hypotheticals stink. you might try them on someone who has
never lost a child. they
might buy that line of garbage. "what if" is a game you do not
want to play with me.
i was with my son when they taped his eyes closed because there
were no tears to keep the
moist. i was with him when his chest heaved in and out as he
desparately gasped for air. i
watched him turn bluer and bluer, not just from the lack of
oxygen, but he was bleeding
under the skin. he held my finger and i felt his hand get colder
and then i watched my son die.
now you think about those little boys turning blue and getting
colder as their lives slipped
from because their parents chose to murder them.
Thou shalt not kill!
"I see no exemption given in the Holy Bible for such people.
Either we all are responsible for
our own actions, or none of us are. Order and justice, or chaos
and misery".
This is a quote from you in the previous thread. Cps did not
murder those children, their
loving mommie and daddy did.
Zella
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