Re: CPS=SUICIDE

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: : : slingblade, : : you can justify the parents actions all you want by blaming CPS : : until the walls come fallin : : down. we justify when there is no REASON for one's actions. they : : had an excuse to murder : : their sons, not a reason. : : suicide is a selfish act. murder is a crime and a sin. there were : : other family members, i know : *********************************************** : It is unfair of you zella, to mischaracterize me as attempting to justify the actions of parents who when faced with cps onslaught against their family, chose to take their own lives and those of their small children. What I have said is neither you nor I can condemn them because we were not facing what they were facing. : Would it have been more kind of those parents to leave their children to be brainwashed by family hating government bureaucrats who would at the very least teach them that their now dead parents were monsters and abusers? Think about it. : <P> : Suicide is an act of people who have gotten tired of their trials and see no hope of change. : Selfish? perhaps. isn't it also selfish for cps to decide families are expendable when God says clearly they are not? : : : you don't trust the sister-in-law. what about mom who said her son : : loved those boys. i am : : sure there were other members who would have raised them. : **************************** : The mother sounded believable to me when she said her son loved his boys and was a good father to them. In fact that is the norm for fathers and sons, no matter the lies our feminist culture has foisted upon us. : You are right that I do not trust the hysteria of the step sister, not knowing any reason why I should. By its very nature, hysteria, means one is acting with hypocrisy. : : : your hypotheticals stink. : ************************************ : perhaps in your opinion. didn't like the movie masada? Do you think the parents were loving to kill their own children along with themselves or do you think they should have left them for the Romans? : <P> : you might try them on someone who has : : never lost a child. they : : might buy that line of garbage. "what if" is a game you do not : : want to play with me. : ******************************************* : suit yourself. It sounds like you are putting yourself on some sort of pedestal to me. : I am not playing a game, just giving my examples from history for you to consider without regard for your own personal history or prejudices. : <P> : : i was with my son when they taped his eyes closed because there : : were no tears to keep the : : moist. i was with him when his chest heaved in and out as he : : desparately gasped for air. i : : watched him turn bluer and bluer, not just from the lack of : : oxygen, but he was bleeding : : under the skin. he held my finger and i felt his hand get colder : : and then i watched my son die. : ******************************************* : as I said before, I am sorry about your son. However, it is a fact of life that all our sons and daughters will die, one day. : Because this is a fact of life which shows how fragile life really is, all the more reason to base one's life upon truth, and to preserve the family and make the relationships within the family : based upon God's truth, not upon therapy lies and cps hoaxes. : <P> : : : : now you think about those little boys turning blue and getting : : colder as their lives slipped : : from because their parents chose to murder them. : : Thou shalt not kill! : ********************************* : I don't dwell on details of sin or death. Death is a fact which confronts us all daily. Better to leave such things in the past and choose life, since none of us can change the past. : Would I endorse the acts of the parents in this situation to take the lives of their small children. No. I have already made this clear. Neither do I condemn them. : <P> : There are some who having tried to heal their lives with recovered vile abuse memories decided to take their own lives also. Neither do I condemn them. I pity them. : <P> : : "I see no exemption given in the Holy Bible for such people. : : Either we all are responsible for : : our own actions, or none of us are. Order and justice, or chaos : : and misery". : <P> : jehu: It is as you have spoken. : <P> : : This is a quote from you in the previous thread. Cps did not : : murder those children, their : : loving mommie and daddy did. : ************************************* : I would agree with that, except that I would say that cps was certainly an accomplice to that murder. : : Zella : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Close : : : : : : : : : : Posted by slingblade on February 08, 1999 at 09:15:20: : : please see the message left on the messageboard : : http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb21308 : : The messageboard : :

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